Atn X Sight 4k Pro 5 20x Freezing Problems

4 Reasons NOT to buy the ATN X-SIGHT 4K PRO Scope2 Reasons TO buy the ATN X-SIGHT 4K PRO ScopeField Review / T&E.MUST WATCH.Barrett Rec10 Unboxing Video. ATN X-Sight II HD 5-20 Smart Day/Night Rifle Scope w/1080p Video, Ballistic Calculator, Rangefinder, WiFi, E-Compass, GPS, Barometer, IOS & Android Apps 4.1 out of 5.

 ATN customer service DOES require a receipt. ATN replaced my X-sight 5-18 with the X-sight II 5-20.

I have had no freezes or reticle issues, so far. Theories I've seen bandied about infer that ATN undersized their internal memory for all the wonderful functions they attempted to include. That is the suggested reason for the dreaded 'freeze'. I experienced freeze often on the X-sight I, none so far on the II.

The image clarity is good to very good, the ballistic calculator appears to be dead on (given the proper inputs), I've not used the Bluetooth connection, yet... only a short, simple recording to test the function. I intend to get around to more extensive use in the near future.

Going on a high dollar 'once in a lifetime' hunt... this is not the scope I would depend on... IF I took it intending to use it, I would carry a backup rifle/scope combo to offset the possibility of 'critical time' failure. So far, the X-sight II has not failed me... my confidence is 'moderate/cautious'. The scope is well situated pricewise for what it can deliver/does deliver (when working). I am cautiously optimistic about it... still cannot say I have no reservations about it.

I know (I'm the same way)... when someone pays good money for a scope they EXPECT IT TO WORK... rightfully so. The only defense for some of the failure modes described for (and experienced with) this scope is that it is pushing the techno envelope, has a LOT of features (perhaps too many) and is experiencing 'growing pains' while trying to keep within a certain price domain.

To purchase one of the ATN X-sight scopes is a roll of the dice. My hope is they respond by improving quality and quality control such that the 'fears of failure' are eliminated. I have to honestly say that every time I sight on a varmint, I have reservations...

'Do you feel lucky???'


Edited by Kickboxer - November/15/2018 at 05:40
ATN Recoil chart
CaliberFull Auto
Rating
Semi Auto
Rating
5.56 NATO (62gr at 3025fps)YesYes
7.62×39 SOVIET (123gr at 2350 fps)YesYes
450/458/50 Large bore (220gr up to 500 gr)YesYes
7.62×51 NATO (180gr at 2610fps)YesYes
.223 Rem. (62gr at 3025fps)YesYes
6.5mm Grendel (123gr at 2590fps)YesYes
.270 Win. (150gr at 2900fps)NoYes
7mm Rem. Mag. (175gr at 2870fps)NoYes
.308 Win. (180gr at 2610fps)YesYes
.30-06 Spfd. (180gr at 2700fps)NoYes
.300 Win. Mag. (180gr at 2960fps)NoYes
375HH (270-350 gr) & 416 Barret (398gr)NoYes
Atn X Sight 4k Pro 5 20x Freezing Problems
Digital Optics
  1. What are the minimum and maximum sized micro SD cards the optics will use? 4gb - 32gb, class 10 or better SDHC type.
  2. Do I need to format my micro SD card prior to use? Yes, format the micro SD card within the scope via menu option in the system settings.
  3. What is the warranty for the ATN Digital Night Vision product line?

    Digital Night Vision have a 2 years warranty.
    LRF and ABL is 2 year, Accessories are 1 year (i.e. X-TRAC, power packs, lights, etc.)

  4. What is the recoil rating? Up to 416 Barrett or 375 H&H
  5. What charger does the X-Sight 4K Pro optic lines take? The X-Sight 4K require a 2-amp charging block and the supplied USB C cable.
  6. What is the average battery life and warranty on the battery in the X-Sight 4K Pro? Battery life is up to 18+ hrs, depending on settings. Warranty is 6 years on the battery.
  7. What power source is needed for the X-Sight II HD take? The X-Sight II HD requires 4 AA type batteries, 1.5 V (Lithium recommended)
  8. What is the avergitage lithium battery runtime in the X-Sight II HD?

    Average lithium runtime is 8-12 hours, depending on settings. An external battery kit is available, called the ATN Power Weapon Kit, which will yield up to 22 hours of runtime. If the ATN Power Weapon kit is used, it is still recommended to have aa batteries in the unit as a safeguard.

  9. Are the optics waterproof?

    With all port covers in place and/or firmly tightened, the optics are water resistant.

  10. How much does the X-Sight 4K Pro weigh? Average weight across the models is 2.2lbs.
  11. How do I update my firmware?
  12. Is there a single piece QD scope mount available for the X-Sight 4K Pro? Yes, ATN has a single piece QD scope mount available for retail.
  13. Will the X-TRAC work with the X-Sight 4K PRO/ Buck Hunter? Yes
  14. Pin hole cap needed for the X-Sight II HD? With the X-sight 2 HD a pin hole cap has shown to improve performance.
  15. Do the scopes come with rings, and what size scope rings do they require?
  16. Yes. The X-Sight 4K Pro comes with a selection of 30’ mm tall rings that will fit picatinny rail mounting options, but the new design will fit any traditional 30’ mm rings, as long as there is enough clearance for the bell.

  17. Will I have to buy an aftermarket illuminator? You don't need to purchase an aftermarket illuminator if your typical viewing ranges consist of approximately 200 yards or less. If you would like to extend your viewing range, you can purchase an aftermarket illuminator. ATN offers the IR850 Pro and the SUPERNOVA. The IR850 Pro will extend the range to 300 - 400 yards, or the SUPERNOVA can extend the range to 400 - 550 yards.
  18. Can I use digital night vision Day and Night? Yes, digital night vision can be used 24/7.
  19. Which X-Sight 4K PRO model do I need? This depends heavily on your hunting conditions. If you typically shoot stationary targets at longer distances, you should consider the 5-20x. If you typically shoot closer range targets or moving targets, you may want to choose the 3-14x due to the wider field of view.
  20. Do the scopes have a built-in laser range finder? No, they do not include a built-in laser rangefinder. ATN offers an Auxiliary Ballistic Laser range finder (ABL) that adapts to the scope and connects via Bluetooth. This provides the capability to make first round hits on target with the aid of the Bullet Drop Compensator.
  21. Can I take the night vision out of the country? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.
  22. Can I export, i.e. mail, my night vision oversees to countries not considered U.S. territories? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.
Thermal Optics
  1. What are the minimum and maximum sized micro SD cards the optics will use? 4gb - 32gb, class 10 or better SDHC type.
  2. Do I need to format my micro SD card prior to use? Yes, format the micro SD card within the scope via menu option in the system settings.
  3. What is the warranty for ATN Thermal products?
  4. Thermal optics have a 3 years warranty.

    LRF and ABL is 2 year, Accessories are 1 year (i.e. X-TRAC, power packs, lights, etc.)

  5. What is the recoil rating? Up to 416 Barrett or 375 H&H
  6. What charger does the thermal optic take? ThOR 4 requires a 2-amp charging block and the supplied USB C cable.
  7. What is the average battery life and warranty on the battery in the ThOR 4? Battery life is up to 16+ hrs, depending on settings. Warranty is 6 years on the battery.
  8. What is the average lithium battery runtime with the Thor HD?

    Average lithium runtime is 8-12 hours, depending on settings. An external battery kit is available, called the ATN Power Weapon Kit, which will yield up to 22 hours of runtime. If the ATN Power Weapon kit is used, it is still recommended to have aa batteries in the unit as a safeguard.

  9. Are the optics waterproof?

    With all port covers in place and/or firmly tightened, the optics are water resistant.

  10. How much does the ThOR 4 weigh? Average weight across the models is 2.2lbs.
  11. How do I update my firmware?
  12. What do I use as a target to zero my ThOR 4?

    ATN has thermal targets available for retail purchase.

  13. Is there a single piece QD scope mount available for the X-Sight 4K and the ThOR 4?

    Yes, ATN has a single piece QD scope mount available for retail.

  14. Will the X-Trac work with the ThOR 4? Yes
  15. Does the ABL work with the ThOR-HD? No, the ThOR-HD does not have the required threads to attach the ABL.
  16. Do the scopes come with rings, and what size scope rings do they require?

    Yes. The ThOR 4 comes with a selection of 30’ mm tall rings and that will fit picatinny rail mounting options, but the new design will fit any traditional 30’ mm rings, as long as there is enough clearance for the bell.

  17. Which ThOR 4 should I choose?

    This depends on the detection range capabilities you desire. Thor 4 detection, recognition, and identification ranges are listed here for each model.

  18. What’s the difference between the ThOR4 384 models and the 640 models?

    The difference is resolution and image quality. Higher resolution and better image quality typically yield longer detection ranges due to the higher number of pixels available on a given target at a given distance

  19. Is an IR light needed with thermal? No, an IR light is not needed.
  20. Can I use thermal Day and Night? Yes, thermal can be used 24/7.
  21. Do the scopes have a built-in laser range finder?

    No, they do not include a built-in laser rangefinder. ATN offers an Auxiliary Ballistic Laser range finder (ABL) that adapts to the scope and connects via Bluetooth. This provides the capability to make first round hits on target with the aid of the Bullet Drop Compensator.

  22. Can I take the thermal optic out of the country? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.
  23. Can I export, i.e. mail, my thermal oversees to countries not considered U.S. territories? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.
Analog Night Vision

Atn X Sight 4k Pro 5-20x

  1. What is a NVD (Night Vision Device)? A Night Vision Device is electronically increased optical device that enables us to see in near-total darkness.
  2. What are some precautions to using Night Vision? The NVD should not be turned on in day light.
  3. The NVD should not be aimed at bright light (even in the dark).
  4. The NVD should not be disassembled without professional assistance.
  5. Try not to drop or shake the NVD.
  6. The objective lens of the NVD should not be touched (touch it only with soft non-abrasive cloth).
  7. It is better to keep the device in a case, in order not to damage it.
  8. How does Night Vision work?

    Night vision devices gather existing ambient light (starlight, moonlight or infra-red light) through the front lens. This light, which is made up of photons goes into a photocathode tube that changes the photons to electrons. The electrons are then amplified to a much greater number through an electrical and chemical process. The electrons are then hurled against a phosphorus screen that changes the amplified electrons back into visible light that you see through the eyepiece. The image will now be a clear green-hued amplified re-creation of the scene you were observing.

  9. Read more: How Night Vision Works and electronics.howstuffworks.com
  10. What is the difference between the 1 Gen and the 2 Gen?

    Gen 1 night vision equipment is build around image intensifier tubes with very simple configurations. Gen 1 image tube is vacuum-sealed. Gen 1 equipment has lower light amplification (gain) and image quality (resolution) when compared with Gen 2 and 3, especially on the edges of the screen. Nevertheless, Gen 1 night vision is the most popular and demanded product line of night vision units on the consumer market. Gen 1 equipment is great to have fun with and satisfies the needs of most recreational demands. Gen 2 equipment is enhanced by utilizing a micro-channel plate (MCP). MCP looks like a honeycomb where each cell has a large number of channels for electrons to enter. For each accelerated electron emitted by the photocathode it strikes the channels of the MCP, about 1000 electrons come out on the other end. MCP boosts light gain of an image tube by about 1000 times. As a result the output image is brighter and clearer. Gen 2 equipment is costly and fits the needs of more advanced users. It is widely used for tactical and professional surveillance purposes.

  11. Read more: How Night Vision Works
  12. How a NVD can be focused?

    A regular scope has an objective lens and eyepiece adjustment. First, adjust the objective lens to perfect the image. Then adjust the eyepiece to your eyesight. In binoculars or goggles each eyepiece must be adjusted separately. To do this close your left eye and adjust the right eyepiece. Then open you left eye and adjust the left eyepiece to get a full contrast image. Some night vision goggles require objective focusing first, and then adjusting the eyepieces.

  13. Remember, that all night vision devices have a minimal focusing distance, a minimal distance at which objects can appear in full focus.
  14. How far can you see with a NVD?

    There are many different variables that can effect the distance that you can see with a Night Vision device. The larger the object the easier it is too see. If you're trying to see details we call this recognition range and if you're just trying to see whether something there is or maybe you will just see movement but won't be able to 100% determine who or what it is. This is called detection range. Another variable is lighting conditions. The more ambient light you have (starlight, moonlight, infrared light) the better and further you will be able to see. You can always see further on a night where the moon and stars are out then if it is cloudy and overcast. We typically state that you can tell the difference between a male and a female or a dog and a deer at about 75 to 100 yards. However, if you were looking across an open field and there was a half moon out you could see a barn or a house 500 yards away.

  15. Remember, that the purpose of an NVD is to see in the dark not necessarily a long ways like a binocular.
  16. What is Infrared Illuminator (IRI) meant for (Complete Darkness)?

    All Starlight scopes need some light to amplify. This means that if you were in complete darkness you could not see. Due to this we have a built in infra-red illuminator (IRI) on all of our scopes. Basically what an IRI does is throw out a beam of infra-red light that is near invisible to the naked eye but your NVD can see it. This allows you to use your scope even in total darkness. The IRI works like a flashlight and the distance you can see with it will be limited. This allows our IRI to extend out to 100 yards However, because of the power at a short distance the IRI may cover only 40—60% of the viewing area.

  17. Can the NVD be returned if You don't like it? Please read our Return Policy in the Privacy/Security section.
  18. What is the warranty for ATN products? Analog Night Vision have 2 years warranty.
  19. What power source is needed for most of the analog night vision? 1 x 3V (CR123A) or 1 x 1.5V (AA type battery) ***Depends on the model, please check the spec sheet for your specific model.
  20. What is the average lithium battery runtime with analog night vision? Average runtime is 40 hours.
  21. Are the optics waterproof?

    With all port covers in place and/or firmly tightened, the optics are water resistant.

  22. Can I use my analog night vision Day and Night?

    No, you cannot use your analog night vision during the day.

  23. Can I take the analog night vision out of the country? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.
  24. Can I export, i.e. mail, my analog night vision oversees to countries not considered U.S. territories? No, export paperwork is needed for all night vision and thermal optics. ATN does not secure such paperwork for retail customers.